Sunday, 8 January 2012
Forget means-testing ... just cut the size of government
4 comments:
- Mark Wadsworth said...
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Well yeah, but I'm puzzled why you go along with the myth about "the government’s plundering of private pensions"
It's a myth, it's propaganda. The final salary schemes would have all been shut down anyway, the withdrawal of the dividend tax credit was more or less matched with a cut in the rate of corporation tax and so on.
Fact is, the remaining net tax breaks for pensions saving are still enormous, over £40 billion a year and the real plundering is done by the pensions companies who help themselves to £40 billion a year .
There are so many reasons to hate Labour (or the Tories or the Lib's), why do people hate them for stuff they didn't do instead of stuff they did do? -
8 January 2012 12:59
- Fausty said...
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My point is that government interference skews the market. As well as social engineering and its deleterous effects, it also has unintended consequences.
The result is that the government picks winners by pinching from Peter to pay Paul - and the public never knows where it stands because the 'market' no longer makes sense.
Your example of the withdrawal of dividend tax credits being offset by other measures is an example of that. One has to be a tax specialist to wade through the bureaucratic, nonsensical mumbo-jumbo. -
8 January 2012 13:18
- Silverfiddle said...
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Excellent post!
My point is that government interference skews the market. As well as social engineering and its deleterous effects, it also has unintended consequences.
Exactly!
When will people wake up and realize politicians are bribing us with our own money? -
8 January 2012 14:15
- Fausty said...
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Thank you Silverfiddle.
I guess they'll begin to realise it when they can't make ends meet. -
8 January 2012 16:33




Instead, let people keep more of their own income and provide a flat-rate safety net, set at just above the poverty level (as defined by the government) and stop robbing them of the fruits of their own labour and intellect. Stop purchasing votes with our money and stop taking so damned much of it. The level of taxation is so high that most of us are little more than serfs to the State.
Additionally, the Treasury should not be free to tax our savings and pensions – its kleptomania is precisely the reason most of us now have inadequate provision for our old age. Had the government kept out of our affairs, the great majority would have had adequate old age provision. In short, the government has impoverished millions of responsible, self-reliant people by meddling.
JR then asks:
If the government must meddle, it should at least eliminate the absurdities from the system. For example, those who are deemed by government criteria to be “in poverty” - are still paying taxes. They include pensioners, low-paid workers, job seekers and the unemployed/disabled. Unfortunately, with VAT on everything, including services, the disposable income of these people is massacred by the 20% robbery that the Treasury inflicts.
The answer is surely for the government to refrain from taking with one hand and giving with the other. A wasteful and controlling exercise which merely serves to increase the cost of everything while impoverishing an increasing number of people.
In order to decide how much to extract/dole out, the government must make assumptions so as to define its modelling criteria, even though humankind is too diverse, adaptable and resourceful to be adequately represented by any static model. Any model merely represents the modeller’s perception of reality – not the actual reality. Every government system runs into trouble because reality eventually catches up with the model and destroys its credibility.
The best solution is for government to aim to get out of the way, over time. In the meantime, eliminate the absurdities in the the system so as to reduce its complexity; a sizeable chunk of the problem then simply ceases to exist.
The ‘problem’ is of the government’s making. The government is the problem.
Then JR poses the killer question:
Indeed. Why bother, when the government will cut you off at the knees, at a moment's notice, in order to bestow favours on its latest client 'class'?
Government creates moral hazard where the free market does not. The trick is simply to seek out and destroy moral hazard where it exists – in every government policy, department and in every tax clause.
We also need to ask what incentives there are for people to make long-term provision for themselves, after:
- the MF Global scandal where it is alleged (and evidenced) that segregated accounts were plundered,
- the government’s plundering of private pensions,
- massive government-originated inflation heaped on the populace to pay reckless bankers.
What confidence can anyone have in the financial sector, the pensions industry or banks - or the government's ability to manage it all?Why would I put money into a pension scheme or a savings account, rather than into gold? Why would I invest for my future in this country at all, when I can better invest elsewhere?
The government should do less. Much less. It needs to let the free market work and be free for all – not just for palm-greasing corporations, hand-picked by the government.
And it needs to stop purchasing the votes of others with our money.
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